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出大事了!美国球迷盛赞虎扑JR历史各位置前10排名:完爆ESPN!

Chinese"r/nba" fans ranked their all-time greatest players for five positions, can this list beat ESPN`s?Spoilers (self.nba)

中国湿乎乎球迷排的历史5个位置的前10球员,这个榜单能否爆了ESPN?

About two months ago, the "Chinese r/nba"(from hupu.com) ranked their all time greatest players for five positions by fans voting. It took more than 230,000 votes through 50 days to finish this ranking (inspired by /r/NBA's 50 Best in 50 Days). Chinese fans would like to know how you guys like the list, is this better than ESPN`s? Here is the list, if you are interested:

大概2个月前,中国湿乎乎(来自虎扑)通过球迷投票选出了他们的各位置历史前10球员,历时50天超过23万投票完成了这次排名(投票形式来源于reddit50天票选50大球员)。中国球迷想知道你们怎么看这份榜单,比ESPN选的要好不?榜单奉上,如果你有兴趣的话:

[–]Major-Mo 12 points 8 hours ago

Surprisingly good list

出人意料的好啊,这个榜单

[–]Lakersuniy64 2 points 3 hours ago

that's much better than those from ESPN.

比ESPN那些排得好得多啊

[–]Thunderokcthunder2016 9 points 7 hours ago

this is one of the best lists i have seen. no curry. KD should be ranked lower right now.

Wade is #4 IMO also. This is the most accurate ranking I've ever seen.

这是我看过的最好的排名之一了!没有库里,杜兰特现在也应该排得低一点。

韦德我也同意是第4,这是我见过的最准确的排名!

[–]TimberwolvesWeirdEraCont 2 points 4 hours ago

I actually 100% agree with this list.

讲真,我100%同意这份榜单

[–][DAL] Rodrigue BeauboisBobbyFischerG 6 points 6 hours ago

The list is solid...there are some names I would change around but whatever.

Even the Chinese agree Dirk>KG

这个榜单可靠...个别名字我可能会改变一些,不过也无所谓了。

即便中国球迷也同意德克>KG

[–][LAL] Jordan Clarksoncrawshay 2 points 4 hours ago

Lol I was expecting Yao Ming as #1 center for sure. Now I feel like an asshole cause it's actually a great list.

哈哈,我还以为肯定会看到姚明排到第一中锋呢。现在我感觉自己就像个2b,因为这个榜单真得很好

[–]NBAChopSueyWarrior 2 points an hour ago

Man I wish Yao was healthy and he would be on that damn list!

哎,我真希望姚明要是能保持健康就好了,那他尼玛就会上这个榜单了!

[–]Knickshubertdavisfor3 3 points 7 hours ago

Certainly a solid list. A few question marks, but the appreciation for pettit is really interesting to me. He tends to get overlooked when talking about the top PFs of all time.

无疑是很可靠的榜单,除去个别疑问。但我觉得他们对佩蒂特的欣赏真的很有趣。当我们讨论历史大前锋的时候,佩蒂特很容易被忽视

[–]imkindofcreative 106 points 8 hours ago

No Starbury instantly gives it more credibility.

没有马布里,这个榜单立马权威性大增了

[–][SAS] Boban MarjanovicSean88888 168 points 8 hours ago

Actually, no Curry instantly gives it more credibility

实际上没有库里就已经让这个榜单权威很多了

[–]Grizzliesredsmite 10 points 8 hours ago

if we did it here, maybe curry will be on the top 5 in pg list.

如果在我们reddit这儿排,也许库里就会上历史前5了

[–]KnicksCoreFour1996 11 points 6 hours ago

Everyone here was bashing ESPN for having Curry so high lol.

哈哈哈大家不是之前都在这喷ESPN把库里选进榜了么

[–]NBAGregMonroe 223 points 8 hours ago

Oh my god, are we ranking lists now?

噢,我的天呐,我们现在是要开始评比”榜单排名哪家强”了吗?

[–]NBAitsnotbutter13 80 points 8 hours ago

What, you don't like ranking other peoples' rankings of rankings?

等等,你不喜欢评比“别人选出的排名”吗?

[–]BoomersGold 48 points 8 hours ago

I agree with every position.

我每一个位置都同意

[–]PistonsShelocksme[S] 56 points 8 hours ago

Haha, I`m sure the Chinese fans will call you "Dongqiudi", which means "Mr. know-all in basketball world".

哈哈,我确定中国球迷会管你叫"董秋迪“,意思是”篮球里属你最懂球“

[–]KingsScratchlax 50 points 7 hours ago

I don't know why a language would ever need to have a single word that means that.

我都不知道为什么一种语言能够用1个单词就能表示出这种意思

[–]RocketsTitanBlueprint 40 points 7 hours ago

What you're thinking of as "words" is actually a "character" in Chinese, which are almost all monosyllabic. So that's actually 3 characters (dong qiu di). Many English words have multi-character analogues in Chinese (e.g. phone <-> dian hua).

你想象的“单词”实际上在中文里是一个“字”,几乎都是单音节的。所以实际上董秋迪是三个字组成的,很多英文单词在中文里都是多个字组成的(比如phone--》电话)

[–]WizardsZomby24 346 points 8 hours ago

Are these the same people that gave us HibbertCoin? Because if so anything they say is good in my book.

这些投票的人就是当初给我们介绍希伯特币的人吗?如果是他们的话,那他们说啥我都服

[–]PistonsShelocksme[S] 221 points 8 hours ago

Yep,we are. I was proud to be one of them

是我们。我很自豪当初我也是其中一份子

[–]Stellewind 90 points 6 hours ago*

I am from China too. I think it would be interesting to introduce some other popular NBA jokes from hupu.com to here. You know, like 3 illusions of Texas, listening to Kobe's game, Harden's 5 pointers, the Rookie Duncan, and Curry the sky fucker and etc.

edit: explanation below in the replies.

我也来自中国。我觉得给你们介绍些其它虎扑有关NBA的梗会有很有意思。比如德州3大幻觉,听科比的比赛,哈登的5分球,新秀邓肯,还有库日天等等...

[–]CelticsKCTritz 58 points 6 hours ago

Curry the what? Lmfao

库里是啥?哈哈哈

[–]Stellewind 168 points 5 hours ago*

Well that nickname starts this season. It's like we always praise a player "sky is his limit", and Curry this season is like "fuck the sky I am going higher".

And every time Curry puts up ridiculous stats, people would say "Oh boy he fucks the sky again. Poor sky."

这个外号是这个赛季才开始的,就像是我们总是称赞一名球员“天空才是他的极限”,而库里这个赛季就像是”去你的天空,我的上限更高“、每次库里打出逆天数据时,人们就会说

“库里又日天了,可怜的老天”

[–]Hawksdaeve 70 points 5 hours ago

Curry the sky fucker is the best nickname in years

库里,库日天,这是几年内最好的外号了

[–]derpaherpa 14 points 4 hours ago

That's amazing. I need to learn Chinese for that alone.

太不思议了,光为这我就应该学学中文

[–]Spursfloresdelmar 16 points 5 hours ago

Okay, you can't explain just the "Curry fuck the sky". Do share. Some of us want to know.

好吧,你不能光解释”库日天“,分享下吧,我们现在很想知道别的了

[–]Stellewind 150 points 5 hours ago*

explanation:

3 illusions of Texas: Spurs is old, Mavs is weak, Rockets is good.

Listening to Kobe's game: a self-mockery joke from Kobe fans, referring to the sound of rim that every missed shot makes. Kobe sometimes has too many shoot attempts even at a cold night, and you only need to listen to his game ( a lot of bricks).

Harden's 5 pointers: Harden has to many FTs, sometimes his stats is like 6/20 FG and 30 pts, which looks like every shot is a 5 pointers.

The Rookie Duncan: referring to Tim's absurd longevity and how he was already playing like a GOAT since rookie year. This season every time when Duncan has a low scoring game, we said he finally hits the rookie wall.

解释下:

德州三大幻觉:马刺太老,小牛很弱,火箭很强。

听科比的比赛:是科蜜们的自嘲,参见科比每次打铁的声音,科比即便手冷的时候也投得太多,你只需要用耳朵听他的比赛就行了(大量打铁声)。

哈登的5分球:哈登罚球数太多了,有时候他的数据是20投6中都可以拿下30分,看着就像是一球算5分一样。

新秀邓肯:参见邓肯逆天的耐操性生涯,而且他新秀赛季就打得像是第一人一样。这个赛季邓肯终于得分低了下来,我们说邓肯是撞了新秀墙

[–][LAL] Nick YoungPENIS__FINGERS 91 points 5 hours ago

rockets is good

Damn y'all be shitting on the rockets over there too

”火箭很强“

卧槽你们那儿也使劲黑火箭啊

[–][CHI] Nazr MohammedThaBomb 53 points 5 hours ago

Harden 5 pointer is clever and funny. We need an update every couple months of your guys inside jokes, they seem a lot better than /r/NBA's

哈登的5分球,真机智,很好笑。我们需要你们每隔几个月就来reddit分享下你们的梗啊,看着比reddit的好很多啊

[–]CavaliersImanShumpertplus 8 points 5 hours ago

I wish I had an account on hupu.com

我真希望我在虎扑也有帐号

[–]Raptorssuperking4u 4 points 5 hours ago

Haha I love all of these!

哈哈哈,大爱所有这些

[–][DAL] Dirk NowitzkiCheetahSperm18 554 points 8 hours ago

I was expecting some weird recency bias or just flat out messed up orders, but aside from a view blips, this is actually a pretty darn good list

EDIT: and not having Curry and putting someone like Bob Cousy instead is more credible imo

我本来还以为会看到一些诡异的厚今薄古或者XJB排的排名,但除了个别位置,这个榜单排得真尼玛好啊

在我看来没把库里放进来,而选得是鲍勃库西,这显得更有权威性了

[–]Deathzthe 289 points 7 hours ago*

About Curry. he needs to have 4-5 years consistent on his numbers before we put him in that list.

Edit: Numbers means Numbers that can qualify you in MVP race

关于库里。在我们把他放进这个榜单之前,他需要再打出4-5年的稳定数据,我这说的数据指的是能让你竞争MVP的数据

[–][DAL] Dirk NowitzkiCheetahSperm18 132 points 7 hours ago

I think everybody here can agree that all he needs is longevity for the rest of his career, or he could end up like T-Mac and D-Will

我觉得我们reddit这儿也都同意库里剩余的生涯需要更长的耐操性,否则他就会像是麦迪或者德隆一样的结局

[–]HornetsJezuzFingerz 179 points 6 hours ago

Could he really though? Once you win an MVP I think you are automatically placed in a tier above guys like D-Will and T-Mac. I mean, with the exception of possibly Rose, every MVP winner has been inducted into the Hall of Fame or is a surefire lock to do so. Plus Steph has won an NBA championship. I think even if he burns out after a few more seasons somehow he will still be held in higher regard than players like McGrady.

真的吗?一旦你赢过mvp,我觉得你自动就能排在德隆和麦迪之上了。我的意思是,罗斯例外。每一个MVP都入选过名人堂,或者肯定锁定了这个位置。而且库里还有冠军呢,我觉得如果库里几个赛季后不行了,他也会比麦迪这样的球员历史地位要高

[–]LeagueOfVideo 45 points 6 hours ago

T-mac had a pretty damn elite level peak, at least individually.

就个人表现而言,巅峰麦的级别尼玛可是精英级的

[–]LakersRoike 13 points 4 hours ago

Ya people forget about T-Mac a bit due to injuries and him never winning big. However, his elite prime time was comparable to ANY modern player. He was SO good at SO many different things.

是的,人们因为伤病有点遗忘麦迪了,而且麦迪从没赢过什么大荣誉。不管怎样,他精英级的巅峰期是可以拿来和任何现代球员相比的。他曾经是那么强,精通那么多方面

[–][SAS] Brent Barryjeewantha 46 points 8 hours ago

Good ranking. All the spots seem justifiable except for a few.

Personally I would shift Pettit and Mikan a few spots. Cousy as well.

Isiah is the 2nd greatest point ever as I see it.Good list overall.

这个排名很赞,除去个别位置,所有位置看上去都是有理有据的

我个人会把佩蒂特和麦肯移动几个位置,库西也是如此。我觉得刺客能排到第2控卫。总体来说榜单很赞

[–]PistonsLasershot112 41 points 8 hours ago

Interesting that they respect the early days of the NBA more than this sub

有意思的是,他们(中国球迷)比我们这儿更尊重远古NBA的球员啊

[–]Heatanimebop 20 points 7 hours ago

Not really. For example, an average European that's interested in American politics would probably know more history than an average American that follows American politics, simply because they would usually have started with learning the history and then would only become interested if they found the history interesting.

An American fan might only watch local team games, while a Chinese fan would have to work to get anything and would dig deeper and get older games.

其实也不是,比如,一个普通欧洲人如果对美国政治有兴趣的话,他们很可能比美国普通人更懂美国历史,更关注美国政治。就因为他们会先开始学习历史,感兴趣的话才会变得更有兴趣。

一个美国球迷可能只看自己当地的球队比赛,而一个中国球迷会想法看所有的比赛,可能研究更深看了更多以前的比赛

[–]PistonsLasershot112 20 points 7 hours ago

Yeah man you got a link to this online library full of '40s and '50s games and highlights ?

没错,兄弟你有没有全是40年代和50年代的比赛和高光链接

[–]Heatsupergrega 22 points 6 hours ago

It's not a ton of content, but something to get you started can be found here.

这里面并没有太多内容,但可以带你入门,摸这里:

[–]LakersDaHomieBigWick 9 points 4 hours ago

Thank You!!!!!!

This needs to be up higher for anyone who has yet to to see games from the early days of basketball since it is a good introduction. The footage is grainy but you can still see some similarities to today's game and how much its transformed since then. A shame that a lot of people on this sub clearly don't care to give history a look.

谢谢你!!!这应该亮上去,让那些人看到更远古的比赛,这是很好的介绍。录像可能画质很烂,但你仍然能看出和现代比赛相似的方面,理解比赛是如何从当时演变而来。可耻的是我们这很多人显然根本对历史不屑一顾!

[–][BOS] Larry Birdimlarrybird 41 points 8 hours ago

I was really expecting to see Yao, especially since he's not that far off from being a top 10 center.

我真的以为会看到姚明呢,特别是姚明离前10中锋也没那么远

[–]PistonsShelocksme[S] 62 points 8 hours ago

Sorry to disappoint you, but there were many yao`s haters saying he was way behind from being top 10 centers, some even said Yao couldnt make top 20, because he was never the best center for a single season, and he was scrub for not dominating Boozer and Okur in those Rockets-Jazz series. I was like lol

抱歉让你失望了,但天朝湿乎乎的姚黑太多,他们认为姚明离前10还差着远呢,有人甚至说“姚明前20都排不到,因为他从来就没有一个赛季是第一中锋,而且他在火箭爵士系列赛里太不中用,因为他没有统治布泽尔和奥库”。我就呵呵了

[–]Rocketsspeerme 1 point 4 hours ago

Lol Yao was definitely the best center in the league for a year or two. Yes he was better than Dwight even at Dwight

It's a shame most of this sub underrates Yao and probably didn't watch him play much. Truly one of the most unique players to ever play a and he's a lock at top 20.

哈哈哈,姚明当然是有1-2年是联盟第一中锋了,没错,他比巅峰魔兽还要强。

遗憾的是这个区的大多数人都低估了姚明,很可能因为他们没怎么看过姚明的球。他真的NBA史上最独特的球员之一,他妥妥锁定了前20中锋

[–]Rocketsncooke 26 points 5 hours ago

I mean he should be top 20 but it's understandable to leave him out of top 10

我的意思是姚明应该是前20中锋,但把他放在前10之外也是可以理解的

[–]Bad_QB 8 points 7 hours ago

Yao is not anywhere close to being a top 10 center.

姚明离前10中锋还很远

[–][BOS] Larry Birdimlarrybird 7 points 6 hours ago

Would you not put him in your top 20?

你都不会把姚明放到前20里?

[–]BucksAeschylus- 4 points 6 hours ago

He's 12 imo

我个人觉得姚明排第12

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